Can one really sense a force connection in others????

[Athmis/Acir]

My pair of centi-credits:

Yes.
For a talented, especially focussed, powerful or very experienced FS, it is entirely possible that you could deduce if another sentient has a connection to the force.

Thewix however, is niether talented, focussed or powerful. Therefore, I read what's in the bio and make deductions on what's going on in spatial for the most part. Stranger things have happened, but I doubt anyone will actually walk up to him IC and say "I sense the force in you!", because they'll probably be laughed at or treated with a remarkable amount of suspicion.

Just because you can, doesn't mean you should.

[Irys / Senja]

No, no, no. Lucas has gone on record to say that he has nothing to do with EU. EU authors get their approval through Lucas Licensing, not Lucasfilm.

Do you really think that Lucas sits behind a desk all day and reads drafts for potential books and comics? No, he considers the EU to an "alternate universe" which allows authors to do nearly whatever they want.

Indeed. And both bear his name and line his pockets. Because he does not have the time to sit and read the drafts for all of the things keeping him fed, he delegated that to someone else. However, by making that decision, he therefore has to carry the burden of the decisions made by those that he appointed to do those things. He has everything to do with the EU. By allowing it, by delegating someone else to oversee it, by setting guidelines that must be followed before an outline is even approved. He may not be hands on with it, he may not micromanage, but he is still responsible for the crap that gets put out there. EU authors don't get their approval through Lucas Licensing. Lucas Licensing asks specific authors to write something per their standards (Standards set by ... Lucas).

(This further supports my claim that star wars is not his 'beloved baby' like people claim and is indeed just a meal ticket. I certainly would not let others muck about with my stuff. Either he loves his world and DOES read those drafts because heaven knows he's not doing much else, or he doesn't give a damn. Pick one.)

ANYWAY. Regardless of if people think Lucas did, or did not like Zhan's explanation for why Yoda went to a random planet full of evil for 16 years (Because heaven knows it was a great vacation spot), it's a sound literary reason given the actual description of the Force at the time as it was explained through the words and actions of the characters in the original trilogy. And, since Lucas clearly did not bother to explain why Yoda thought it would be great to live next to a pit of evil, it's all we have to go off of.

I clearly posted all of the dialogue I could find to support my statement that: Yes. Some people can sense that other people are force users.

[McCay]

Indeed. And both bear his name and line his pockets. Because he does not have the time to sit and read the drafts for all of the things keeping him fed, he delegated that to someone else. However, by making that decision, he therefore has to carry the burden of the decisions made by those that he appointed to do those things. He has everything to do with the EU. By allowing it, by delegating someone else to oversee it, by setting guidelines that must be followed before an outline is even approved. He may not be hands on with it, he may not micromanage, but he is still responsible for the crap that gets put out there. EU authors don't get their approval through Lucas Licensing. Lucas Licensing asks specific authors to write something per their standards (Standards set by ... Lucas).

(This further supports my claim that star wars is not his 'beloved baby' like people claim and is indeed just a meal ticket. I certainly would not let others muck about with my stuff. Either he loves his world and DOES read those drafts because heaven knows he's not doing much else, or he doesn't give a damn. Pick one.)

ANYWAY. Regardless of if people think Lucas did, or did not like Zhan's explanation for why Yoda went to a random planet full of evil for 16 years (Because heaven knows it was a great vacation spot), it's a sound literary reason given the actual description of the Force at the time as it was explained through the words and actions of the characters in the original trilogy. And, since Lucas clearly did not bother to explain why Yoda thought it would be great to live next to a pit of evil, it's all we have to go off of.

I clearly posted all of the dialogue I could find to support my statement that: Yes. Some people can sense that other people are force users.

I have to agree with this.  I did laugh at the thought of George Lucas stuffing money into his pockets while telling people to go ahead and write.  I would say it is more 50/50.  He has to like Star Wars or why have a ranch with a Star Wars name?  And I can assume that if Ep 4 did poorly, the Star Wars Universe would be much different today.

[Sholano]

Irys, yes, since it goes thru Lucas' office, it is "official".

However, anytime he wants to write something again, and toss out anythinmg that was "canon" he does.
It is his sandbox. He allows others to play in it, but when he wants to, he could care less what beutiful castle was built, and how long it took to shape it, he will smash it down to build his own vision.

[Lexija]

This thread inspired me to remove all mention of Force sensitivity from Lexi's bio. I got tired of being metagamed to hell and back with people somehow magically sensing Lexi's "dark aura" and cowering away. She doesn't spew out a dark aura that can be sensed willy nilly, so hopefully this will help.

[Gray]

I had always played it as if people could perhaps sense something different about Gray just because I never really payed it much mind. If people were to sense that from him, it would open up RP. Though through RP he learned to mask his Aura(which people could sense to a great deal), to further hide anything that would tip people off. As far as sensing aura's or a person, I always felt that people who were almost always around each other could feel one another better than they could somebody they rarely interact with.

Anishor for example. Gray is able to smell his "stench" when he is a decent amount if distance to him. People like Azureus or Bella-donna were people he could sense as well. I think it's fair enough for people to be able to at least sense something is "different" about a person who is FS to try and open up that door way if that is what they are after. It may be conflict they seek or perhaps simple FSRP. Either way, it's RP and I'm all for RP.

[Garf]

Vader in EPIV, about a person who he had never met: "The force is strong with this one"

That says you can sense it to me, but what would SW be without massive contradictions?

Said stranger being his SON.

I disagree

[Garf]

One of my characters is FS. I've not really explored it much.

He's in a mix of denial about it and doing his best to supress it most of the time. I use it mostly as a deus ex machina for his uncanny smuggler/gambler abilities. a little bit of TK to help with a quick draw. maybe it's the force that's causing me to think "I've got a bad feeling about this" when a deal goes south etc.

every now and then in his back story he'd use the TK to win at dice. but he's cautious about that now.

on the other hand he did recieve some Jedi training from his lover. and has vague impulses to honour her memory so ... who knows what character development may bring?

Generally right now I play is if 'Faceman' is NOT force sensitive. or if he is it's the han solo unconscious school of FS.

[Dareena]

Said stranger being his SON.

Whom he had never met.

If biology was such a deciding factor, then why didnt he peg Leia as FS when they met on the Tantive IV?

[Garf]

Whom he had never met.

If biology was such a deciding factor, then why didnt he peg Leia as FS when they met on the Tantive IV?

Point taken. hmmm.. hadn't occured to me.

thinking on it there was one difference. Luke was awakening to the force and Leia had not. As far as I can tell she's not really aware of her forceyness until ROTJ.

"Some how I always knew..." (so wait.. what was that Tongue about when you were arguing with Han Solo on Hoth... EWWWWWW!)

"He's safe, I can tell" (Leia to Han about Luke in ROTJ)

but then again ... that opens up more questions than it answers. the truth of it unfortunately is that George Lucas wrote what he though were good lines almost 40 years ago and made up the explanations later (Midichlorians bleh)

Still I think I have to agree with those who suggest some sort of biological or emotional link helps with the whole force detection.

might help in other ways too.. maybe luke Leia and Anakin/Vader were drawn unkowning towards each other.

(I'm reminded of Jolee Bindo's story of the friend who was a swirling vortex of force energy proclaiming a big ass destiny. Made the friend arrogant. turned out his big destiny was to be carelessly killed an become the catalyst of an unfortunate engine reactor incident that killed a huge 'threat to the galaxy')

apparantly the you can read someone's force as if you were reading a tarot deck. "I see your Density... er... Destiny"

[ChyldeMyst]

I've never read any of the EU books. My treatment of it is based entirely on what I saw in the movies, and on my personal research into psychic phenomena. Because every power exhibited by Forcers is a psychic phenomenom - telepathy, clairvoyance, precognition, aura reading, telekinesis... even Force Lightning could be perceived as a form of telekinesis if it was a manipulation of existing energy currents in the environment.

The way I see it, everything has a presence within the Force, but most are so small as to be unrecognizable. They cause no more disruption in the natural flow than flicking a grain of sand into a lake. That's why Force Sensitives aren't overwhelmed with the awareness of every living thing. But enough of those mundane grains of sand can still create a change, as when Alderaan exploded. That was several tons of sand being airdropped into the lake. ^.^ The collective impact made the ripple that Obi-Wan sensed.

Those with a strong enough connection to the Force to influence it are larger objects being tossed into the aforementioned lake. They make splashes and ripples, and those ripples are what other Sensitives detect. Early on in the movies, the Forcies only detected one another when they were using their powers. It wasn't until later that they exhibited the talent of just knowing the others were there.

The more powerful and trained a person is, the larger the object gets, to the point that it can actually disrupt or completely alter the flow of the Force around it. The Skywalkers, Yoda, and The Emperor were honking great boulders. It was hard NOT to notice them moving through the Force.


As for how to read a Force Sensitive's aura, and what they're like... well, that I stole from another gaming system entirely, the White Wolf game Mage: The Awakening. Every Mage had an aura of sorts that evinced itself when he or she worked magic. It could be a reflection of his or her personality, alignment, magickal expertise, or in some cases, a psychic impression of a pivotal moment in the Mage's life. R'lassa's Force aura is a reflection of her personality and alignment, and changes to reflect shifts in her mental state or core personality.

[Apollos Vandron]

Unless you have a way of masking your force sensitivity from someone in person then they can sense it. But if your offworld, it would take much more to sense someone. Take a look at Obi Wan on Tatooine this whole time.

[NKre]

not as lame as the whole midoclorian concept, sadly

what's the problem with midoclorians? 

[Sholano]

what's the problem with midoclorians? 

For me, the problem is that it tries to quantify something that was originally (and for 20 years of my life) meant to be mystical. 

[Lexija]

For me, the problem is that it tries to quantify something that was originally (and for 20 years of my life) meant to be mystical. 

I agree... but I guess it's still kinda mystical that some people have them and others don't? I don't mind it too horribly but I do understand why people don't like it. In my opinion though it's just giving a scientific name to a mystical occurrence, so it still works.